[OmniOS-discuss] [smartos-discuss] To the OmniOS, OI and SmartOS community

[Youzhong Yang]

I would recommend Plan C. We've used SmartOS for years, with hundreds of
servers as storage backend, serving thousands of Linux/Mac/Windows clients.
Joyent has the best talented engineers and they are always willing to help.

By the way, we don't care much about packages, a stable and reliable kernel
is our requirement.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 7:58 AM, Guenther Alka <alka at hfg-gmuend.de> wrote:

> *Its time to consider pla**n** B/C ??*
> to: omnios-discuss, openindiana-discuss, smartos-discuss
>
> The announcement of OmniTi to cancel OmniOS from now to then is a real
> disaster not only for OmniOS users but for the whole Illumos platform. Many
> users who want a free Solaris based OS especially in production
> environments selected OmniOS as their preferred Illumos platform mainly
> with use cases storage and general server applications.
>
> The reasons:* OmniOS=**Up to date Illumos*
> + commercial support option (although way too expensive)
> + own developments like LX zones integration from SmartOS or drivers
> + stables/long term stables with very experienced full time staff (thanks
> to Dan and Dale again)
>
> As OmniTi has released a new stable 151022, I/we have some time maybe to
> the end of the year unless OmniOS is out of sync with Illumos in a non
> tolerable amount.  Bugfixes of serious problems may be the case until then
> (hope so).
>
> What are the/my options
>
>
> *Plan A*
> Hope for a continuation of OmniOS as a well maintained
> community/commercial project with further development, ongoing stables and
> bugfixes optionally with some paid contributions under the umbrella of a
> firm or at least with some experienced members that were already resonsible
> for OmniOS or an Illumos distribution and that can be trusted for next
> years.
>
> While I hope for this, I doubt that this is a serious option. I switched
> from OpenIndiana to OmniOS three years ago as the OI community was too weak
> and development nearly stalled at that time. I am not interested in a new
> weak OmniOS community for a distribution that should be used as a
> production system. The OmniOS community will be propably too small forever
> as we already have the Illumos community project OpenIndiana nearly
> identical to OmniOS from distribution, features and use cases. And a very
> important thing: The brand OmniOS has already a very bad name as a
> dead/failed project in the press mostly affecting Illumos as well.
>
>
> *Plan B*
> OpenIndiana is a quite established community project for an up to date
> Illumos distribution. I would say its nearly identical to OmniOS beside the
> missing LX improvements from OmniOS but with an additional GUI option. I
> hope to see LX zones upstreamed to Illumos. OpenIndiana currently offers a
> rolling development of newest Illumos bits with snapshots every 6 months
> but without an additional stable repository with backported security fixes.
> Every update give you the newest Illumos fixes and features but also the
> newest bugs (ongoing dev, unstable).
>
> If OmniOS has to become a community project, I undoubtly would prefer a
> merge of the two distributions up from next releases. OpenIndiana with a
> stable repo for every snapshot and with a repo as development path would
> give me what was the main advantage of OmniOS beside commercial support.
> Access to such a stable repo optionally under an OmniOS brand may be even a
> paid (if affordable) option. Such a merge would strengthen Illumos at first
> place but also free OpenSource distributions like OmniOS and OpenIndiana.
>
>
> *Plan C*
> There is another free Illumos distribution with an enterprise background
> suited for datacenter use: SmartOS. It even adds unique Cloud and
> virtualisation features like KVM, Solaris zones, Linux zones and Docker
> support. As it is running from RAM with everything important on a datapool
> it is a very stable/ easy recoverable option but it lacks some features in
> the global zone that are required for a storage server.  An additional plus
> is the pkgin repo with lots of supported long term stable services.
>
> Using SmartOS would require a mechanism to allow storage services like
> SSH, Crossbow, iSCSI, NFS and SMB on the global zone with an option to
> save/restore settings from a datapool to be persistent. To be honest, a
> SmartOS that is capable to act as a storage appliance would be my dream
> option, at least as an additional option. This would require that SmartOS
> is not actively hindering this or preferable is helping to implement a
> save/restore option for global zone settings&features.
>
>
> *Discuss*
> But whatever option is coming, end the Illumos fragmentation for the sake
> of one strong free community distribution with a solid number of
> contributors and one freely available with a commercial background like
> SmartOS/ Samsung owned.
>
>
> Any comments from OmniOS, OI, SmartOS (omnios-discuss,
> openindiana-discuss, smartos-discuss) communities?
> I have send this to all three lists, so optionally answer all lists
>
>
> best regards
>
>
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