[OmniOS-discuss] illumos-joyent as a base for OmniOS
Andrzej Szeszo
aszeszo at gmail.com
Tue Dec 18 20:28:18 EST 2012
It was just a random idea I had the other night. I think it would be interesting if there was a traditional distro based on illumos-joyent around. illumos distros come and go - who knows what 2013 will bring us :)
From what I can tell, majority of the commits to illumos-joyent are not Joyent/SmartOS specific. Many of them are actually fixes any distribution could benefit from. There is a number of kernel panic fixes which are not in the illumos-gate yet for example.
Cheers,
Andrzej
On 17 Dec 2012, at 15:26, Theo Schlossnagle <jesus at omniti.com> wrote:
> I would say that Joyent is making some interesting progress in the realm of Illumos. I'll note that (as Jared said) Joyent's product vision highly differs from ours. Joyent adds things into Illumos to service needs and use-cases that our customers should never really have... if they had those needs, they should likely be running SmartOS.
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> That said, I follow the illumos-joyent tree very closely and try to integrate things that would be particularly applicable to generic enterprise workloads. We do have joyent-specific deviations from illumos-gate within OmniOS. I foresee us having stuff from Delphix pulled in as well. If there is a specific Joyent feature you think we'd benefit from, please bring it up on this list and we'll look at what it would mean to integrate it.
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> There are often changes in Joyent's tree that I believe will be pulled into illumos-gate eventually and I'm happy to fast-track those into our tree as (based on history) the final integration will be trivial to replace into our tree.
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> - Theo
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> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Jared Morrow <jared at basho.com> wrote:
> It is my impression that OmniOS is meant to be a rock-solid server OS, so getting the latest and greatest "fun" stuff is probably less important than getting things that are stable. Joyent has the benefit of knowing where and how they are going to deploy SmartOS, so some features they add are meant more for that environment, rather than everyone else. I personally use SmartOS and OmniOS in a professional sense and although SmartOS has some really amazing features which make it an amazing hypervisor, it also seems to ship more bugs each release than I would hope for from a server OS. I've been bit many times with features that clearly don't work and appear to not even be tested in the slightest. Again, I use SmartOS and like it, and I can't speak for OmniTI, but from my point of view, I'm glad OmniOS is based on illumos-gate and not illumos-joyent.
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> -Jared
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> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Andrzej Szeszo <aszeszo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All
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> Was illumos-joyent ever considered as a base for OmniOS? All the fun stuff seems to appear there first.
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> I think with some minor tweaks it could be used as a replacement for the upstream illumos-gate based tree.
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> Cheers,
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> Andrzej
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