[OmniOS-discuss] illumos-joyent as a base for OmniOS

[Jared Morrow]

Good to know.  I suppose most of the things they add for their cloud are
not changes to the kernel, but to the userland apps and their read-only
global zone files anyway.

-J


On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Andrzej Szeszo <aszeszo at gmail.com> wrote:

> It was just a random idea I had the other night. I think it would be
> interesting if there was a traditional distro based on illumos-joyent
> around. illumos distros come and go - who knows what 2013 will bring us :)
>
> From what I can tell, majority of the commits to illumos-joyent are not
> Joyent/SmartOS specific. Many of them are actually fixes any distribution
> could benefit from. There is a number of kernel panic fixes which are not
> in the illumos-gate yet for example.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andrzej
>
> On 17 Dec 2012, at 15:26, Theo Schlossnagle <jesus at omniti.com> wrote:
>
> I would say that Joyent is making some interesting progress in the realm
> of Illumos. I'll note that (as Jared said) Joyent's product vision highly
> differs from ours.  Joyent adds things into Illumos to service needs and
> use-cases that our customers should never really have... if they had those
> needs, they should likely be running SmartOS.
>
> That said, I follow the illumos-joyent tree very closely and try to
> integrate things that would be particularly applicable to generic
> enterprise workloads.  We do have joyent-specific deviations from
> illumos-gate within OmniOS.  I foresee us having stuff from Delphix pulled
> in as well.  If there is a specific Joyent feature you think we'd benefit
> from, please bring it up on this list and we'll look at what it would mean
> to integrate it.
>
> There are often changes in Joyent's tree that I believe will be pulled
> into illumos-gate eventually and I'm happy to fast-track those into our
> tree as (based on history) the final integration will be trivial to replace
> into our tree.
>
> - Theo
>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Jared Morrow <jared at basho.com> wrote:
>
>> It is my impression that OmniOS is meant to be a rock-solid server OS, so
>> getting the latest and greatest "fun" stuff is probably less important than
>> getting things that are stable.  Joyent has the benefit of knowing where
>> and how they are going to deploy SmartOS, so some features they add are
>> meant more for that environment, rather than everyone else.  I personally
>> use SmartOS and OmniOS in a professional sense and although SmartOS has
>> some really amazing features which make it an amazing hypervisor, it also
>> seems to ship more bugs each release than I would hope for from a server
>> OS.  I've been bit many times with features that clearly don't work and
>> appear to not even be tested in the slightest.  Again, I use SmartOS and
>> like it, and I can't speak for OmniTI, but from my point of view, I'm glad
>> OmniOS is based on illumos-gate and not illumos-joyent.
>>
>> -Jared
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Andrzej Szeszo <aszeszo at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> Was illumos-joyent ever considered as a base for OmniOS? All the fun
>>> stuff seems to appear there first.
>>>
>>> I think with some minor tweaks it could be used as a replacement for the
>>> upstream illumos-gate based tree.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Andrzej
>>>
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>
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