[OmniOS-discuss] Questions about - End the uncertainty -

Tobias Oetiker tobi at oetiker.ch
Fri Jul 7 05:21:37 UTC 2017


Hi Aurélien

the motivation behind OmniOSce is that we have come to love the the stability and
tight focus of OmniOS. Many of us are running large servers that form critical pieces of our infrastructure. Loosing OmniOS was simply not an option for us. Since OmniTI gave up on this we were forced start doing the work on our own.

for now our focus is in building on Dan's excellent work, both in updating r022 as well as pulling in new stuff from both upstream illumos and joyents lx work.

we are happy for anyone to join us in our effort, for example also in providing a more end user focussed repo that goes along with omnios, providing a desktop environment for those who want to use the os in that capacity.

www.omniosce.org
gitter.im/omniosorg/Lobby

Tobias Oetiker

> On 7 Jul 2017, at 01:47, Aurélien Larcher <aurelien.larcher at gmail.com> wrote:
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> 
>> Gea,
>> 
>> the king is dead, long live the king
>> 
>> https://gitter.im/omniosorg/Lobby
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>> www.omniosce.org
>> 
>> the story continues ...
> 
> It is good news, but I would engage you to discuss about reducing the fragmentation in the illumos community.
> We have a few distros maintained by 1-3 guys without any or much momentum and much duplication of efforts (Debian has 1000+ devs working together and we are barely able to have more than 10).
> 
> We should join our efforts like, as I suggested, basing on common tools and userland.
> I do not see how wasting energy in duplicate efforts will help us keep/gain momentum.
> I mentioned earlier the possibility of a virtuous circle with OI as the rolling testing and OmniOS the stable: to be honest I see very little sense in maintaining two "testing" with such a small manpower. In the long term this does not seem sustainable.
> 
> At least some degree of collaboration should be maintained on documentation, pkg(5) and updates of Python/Perl/GCC with the same source repository.
> 
> Of course this is not "right now", as you need to maintain continuity, but we should plan the next 6 month cycle to decide on common requirements and make it happen.
> I saw Peter has built illumos-omnios on Tribblix, I think we should do the same on OpenIndiana: the issue is not about doing it once (I did it last year) but having a person commited to maintain it.
> 
> Convergence is necessary, at least to some extent, discussion is open. :)
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Aurélien
>  
>> 
>> cheers
>> tobi
>> 
>> ----- On Jul 5, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Guenther Alka <alka at hfg-gmuend.de> wrote:
>> about OmniOS and the silence for weeks
>> 
>> For my own future, I have already decided to switch back to OpenIndiana, the community based sister project of OmniOS. But like many users, I have yet OmniOS installations running perfectly. For them, it is essential to ask about the future for the next months or year and needed next steps (can wait some time or switch as soon as possible).
>> 
>> 
>> @OmniTi
>> The end of OmniOS at OmniTi seems final. 
>> 
>> - How long will the website and the repo remain online?
>> 
>> - Is there an option to fix serious bugs or problems in OmniOS @OmniTi for 
>> a limited time like 1 year or at least end of the year?
>> 
>> - Are you willing to transfer the website/name either to a new OmniOS community project (I cannot see this as an option regarding the silence about) or to the OpenIndiana community to use it as a name for a possible stable like OpenIndiana Hipster=dev and OpenIndiana OmniOS as a stable subset? (if OI is willing to go that route but the request or offer must come from OmniTi or OmniOS people). 
>> 
>> OmniOS has a very strong reputation regarding production quality and stability, so such a step would help both if OpenIndiana and OmniOS would cooperate in a common project. Seems a pity if the name would die or remain as a name for a failed project.
>> 
>> 
>> @OmniOS developers (current or former - you have done a very good job!)
>> 
>> - Is there an option to fix serious bugs or problems in OmniOS for a limited time like 1 year or at least end of the year? This would help until a sucessor (less likely OmniOS 151024, maybe next OpenIndiana snap with a stable subset) is available. LX would then remain an OmniOS option in the meantime (I would not dare to ask about an upstream).
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>> 
>> @all
>> comments?
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>> 
>> 
>> Gea
>> @napp-it.org
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